I’m thrilled to sit down with Aisha Amaira, a renowned MarTech expert whose deep expertise in integrating technology into marketing strategies has helped countless businesses unlock powerful customer insights. With a robust background in CRM marketing technology and customer data platforms, Aisha brings a unique perspective on how innovations like agentic AI are reshaping organizational dynamics. In this interview, we dive into the evolving role of technology in empowering employees, the transition from shadow IT to sanctioned solutions, and the cultural shifts needed to balance autonomy with governance in today’s fast-paced business environment.
Can you walk us through what shadow IT is and why it’s been such a persistent headache for companies over the years?
Shadow IT refers to the unauthorized tools, apps, or systems employees use to get their work done, often without IT’s knowledge or approval. Think personal cloud accounts, unapproved apps like Dropbox, or even custom spreadsheets with macros. It’s been a headache because it creates security risks, data silos, and compliance issues. But the real reason it persists is that employees are often desperate for speed and flexibility. Official IT processes can take weeks or months, and when you’re on a tight deadline, waiting just isn’t an option. So, people find workarounds that get the job done, even if they’re risky.
What do you think shadow IT reveals about the relationship between employees and IT departments?
Shadow IT is really a symptom of a disconnect. It shows that employees feel their needs for agility and customization aren’t being met by traditional IT systems. It’s not about rebellion; it’s about survival. When IT processes are slow or rigid, employees don’t see IT as a partner but as a barrier. Shadow IT is their way of saying, “We need tools that match how we actually work,” and it highlights a failure of enablement more than a failure of compliance.
Let’s shift gears to agentic AI. How would you describe it, and what sets it apart from other AI tools we’ve seen, like chatbots?
Agentic AI is a step beyond what most people think of as AI. Unlike chatbots or copilots that mainly respond to prompts or assist with specific tasks, agentic AI is autonomous and goal-oriented. It can understand an objective, plan a series of steps to achieve it, execute those steps across systems, and even adapt if something changes. For example, imagine an AI agent in a sales team that monitors a CRM, identifies high-priority leads, assigns them to reps, and sends notifications—all without human input. It’s like a digital teammate, not just a helper.
How does agentic AI step in to address the same needs that drove employees to shadow IT in the first place?
Agentic AI meets the core needs behind shadow IT—speed, flexibility, and autonomy—but in a way that’s sanctioned and secure. Employees turned to shadow IT because they needed quick solutions for things like automating repetitive tasks or accessing data fast. Agentic AI offers that same immediacy through approved platforms. For instance, instead of a sales rep using an unapproved script to automate email follow-ups, they can build an AI agent within a secure, IT-approved system to handle lead nurturing. It’s the best of both worlds: employees get to innovate, and IT keeps things under control with proper guardrails.
The idea of moving from controlling employees to collaborating with them is a big theme. What does this shift look like on the ground in a company?
This shift is about changing the mindset from “IT knows best” to “let’s build together.” In practice, it means IT departments stop being gatekeepers and start being enablers. For example, IT might set up a secure environment where employees can experiment with AI agents using pre-built templates for common tasks like reporting or email triage. It’s also about visibility—IT can see what’s being built and offer support rather than shutting things down. This collaboration builds trust and lets employees take initiative without going rogue.
With all this freedom for employees to use AI tools, there’s bound to be some worry about things getting out of hand. How can companies set boundaries to avoid chaos?
That’s a valid concern, but it’s manageable with the right guardrails. Companies can start by creating a designated space—a secure, approved platform—where employees can build and test AI agents. Role-based access is key, so agents only touch the data or systems they’re supposed to. Traceability is also critical; every action an agent takes should be logged for accountability. And for high-stakes tasks, like sending customer emails or altering financial data, there should be human approval checkpoints. These steps ensure innovation doesn’t turn into anarchy.
Looking ahead, what’s your forecast for how agentic AI will shape the future of work and employee empowerment?
I believe agentic AI will fundamentally change how we think about work by turning employees into creators of their own digital tools. It’s not about replacing people; it’s about amplifying their ability to solve problems. In the next few years, I expect to see a surge in roles like citizen automators—regular employees who build and manage AI agents as part of their day-to-day. This will lead to a more agile, innovative workforce, but only if companies embrace a culture of trust and collaboration. If done right, agentic AI could finally bridge the gap between IT and employees, creating workplaces where technology truly empowers everyone.
