With decades of experience helping organizations navigate change, HRTech expert Ling-Yi Tsai has seen firsthand how technology and new work models reveal the bedrock of corporate culture: leadership. In our conversation, she unpacks why the shift to remote work wasn’t the cause of company problems, but rather the catalyst that exposed long-standing weaknesses in management. We explored the subtle failures of “management by observation,” the critical shift from tracking activity to measuring outcomes, and the foundational role of trust and empathy in any successful team, regardless of where they sit.
The article suggests that “management by observation” masked issues like unclear expectations and poor feedback. Can you share an anecdote of this leadership style in practice and explain the specific, measurable ways it harms a team’s performance, regardless of their location?
Absolutely. I once worked with a company where a manager’s entire leadership philosophy was built on “walking the floor.” He felt a palpable sense of productivity just by seeing heads down and hearing keyboards clicking. But when his team went remote, he was completely lost. It quickly became clear that his physical presence was a crutch. His team had never been given clear, long-term goals; their main objective was simply to look busy whenever he walked by. Performance plummeted not because they were at home, but because the foundational elements were never there. The measurable harm is immense: you see a spike in time wasted on low-impact “vanity” tasks, a drop in innovation because no one feels safe to experiment, and ultimately, higher turnover as your most motivated employees leave out of sheer frustration from the lack of clear direction and meaningful feedback.
Citing a 2017 study, the text notes that “looking busy” doesn’t equal productivity. Could you provide a step-by-step guide for managers on how to shift from tracking activity, like an “Available” status on Teams, to defining and measuring key performance indicators that truly impact business goals?
The shift from monitoring activity to measuring outcomes is crucial, and it’s a tangible process. First, managers must work with their direct reports to define what success looks like. This isn’t a top-down directive; it’s a conversation to connect their individual role to the company’s bottom line. Second, you translate that definition of success into concrete key performance indicators. If you’re on a sales team, it’s not about hours logged; it’s about the value of your pipeline or your close rate. Finally, you establish a rhythm of communication—regular check-ins focused on progress, not presence. You discuss roadblocks and celebrate milestones tied to those KPIs. That 2017 study finding that the average office worker is productive for just under three hours a day was a wake-up call even before the pandemic. It proved that “butts in seats” has always been a flawed metric; we just have better tools to measure what truly matters now.
The content argues that assuming a remote employee is underperforming is a leadership failure rooted in distrust. What specific communication tactics can a leader use to build empathy and create a “safe space” for their team to discuss roadblocks, both personal and professional?
This is where true leadership shows itself. Creating a safe space begins with shifting your mindset from accusation to curiosity. Instead of starting a conversation with “Why is this project behind schedule?”, a great leader will ask, “What roadblocks can I help you remove to get this project moving forward?” This simple rephrasing changes the entire dynamic from a confrontation to a collaboration. Another powerful tactic is intentional vulnerability. When a leader admits they don’t have all the answers or shares a challenge they’re facing, it normalizes struggle and gives their team permission to be human. Regularly scheduled one-on-ones, with the first ten minutes strictly dedicated to non-work topics, also build a foundation of rapport. When an employee feels seen as a whole person, they are far more likely to come to you when they’re struggling, whether it’s with a difficult colleague or a personal issue at home that’s affecting their focus.
When the pandemic forced a sudden shift to remote work, some leaders adapted while others resisted. Based on your experience, what are the core mindset differences between these two groups, and how did their daily communication habits and meeting structures reflect that difference?
The difference was stark, and it all boiled down to one thing: control versus trust. The leaders who resisted the change were those who equated leadership with supervision. Their mindset was, “If I can’t see my team, I can’t manage them.” Their daily habits became about digital surveillance: constant status checks on Teams, demanding immediate email responses, and scheduling back-to-back meetings to replicate the feeling of a busy office. On the other hand, the leaders who adapted thrived because their mindset was already rooted in trust and empowerment. They understood that their job was to provide clarity and support, then get out of the way. Their communication became more asynchronous and intentional, and their meetings were shorter, agenda-driven, and focused on solving problems, not just checking in. They saw the “trial by fire” of 2019 as an opportunity to build a more resilient, autonomous team, not as an obstacle to be endured until they could return to the “old” ways.
The article concludes that effective leadership requires getting “comfortable with losing control.” What does this look like in a manager’s day-to-day actions, and what initial steps can a traditionally hands-on leader take to start empowering their team with more autonomy?
Getting comfortable with losing control feels terrifying at first, but in practice, it’s about shifting from a director to a coach. On a day-to-day basis, it looks like delegating an outcome instead of a list of tasks. You say, “We need to increase customer engagement by 15% this quarter,” rather than, “I need you to send these three emails and post on these four social channels.” It means trusting your team to find the best path to that goal. For a hands-on leader wanting to start, the first step is to take a small, calculated risk. Assign one low-stakes project to a team member and give them full ownership from start to finish. Another great step is to cancel a recurring status meeting and replace it with a shared document for asynchronous updates. These small acts start to build the muscle of trust for the leader and build the confidence and ownership for the employee, creating a virtuous cycle of empowerment.
What is your forecast for the future of corporate leadership? Do you predict a permanent shift toward the skills needed for remote work, or will a widespread return-to-office lead to a resurgence of traditional management styles?
I believe we are seeing a permanent, fundamental shift. The skills that make a great remote leader—exceptional communication, empathy, a focus on results over activity, and the ability to empower teams—are simply the skills of a great modern leader, period. While some organizations will undoubtedly cling to the past and enforce widespread return-to-office mandates, they will be fighting a losing battle for talent. The best and brightest have now experienced what it feels like to be trusted and given autonomy, and they won’t easily give that up. Companies led by those who rely on “management by observation” will become talent deserts. The future of leadership isn’t tied to a physical location; it’s defined by an ability to build connection and drive performance in any environment. The leaders who have embraced this will be the ones who win.
